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The Canary/ Black Canary/ White Canary power and legacy in DC tv and film (fan made collage tribute to Sara Lance, Dinah Lance...

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The Canary/ Black Canary/ White Canary power and legacy in DC tv and film (fan made collage tribute to Sara Lance, Dinah Lance...

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strength, agility, humanity and survival
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strength, agility, humanity and survival

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“please don’t be a condolence card, ‘cause those are always super awkward.”  “nah. hopefully something better. it’s you, ollie,...
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“please don’t be a condolence card, ‘cause those are always super awkward.” “nah. hopefully something better. it’s you, ollie,...

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Sing Pretty Bird
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Sing Pretty Bird

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Love all the bad ass strong women, who were abused, forced to be assassins, chose to be vigilantes, and turned heroes and stood...

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Arrow and Canary
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Arrow and Canary

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Quentin and Sara - father and daughter - for those who forgot them because of Arrow erasure

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Quentin and Sara - father and daughter - for those who forgot them because of Arrow erasure

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The resemblance is undeniable. Caity Lotz as Otto Schmidt Black Canary
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8 days ago

The resemblance is undeniable. Caity Lotz as Otto Schmidt Black Canary

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I know a lot of confusion comes from the fact that when you go online they promote Sara Lance as the leading lady, and then you compare her with Kara and Kate, who are in the center of their shows, they drive the story forward, and then you see this is not the case with Sara. Legends can remove her from two episodes and nothing changes. So obviously she is just the poster girl of the show. 

But there are people who think this shouldn’t be the case and that she has the potential to be a real leading character in an assembly show, they could have planned the seeds for her new super power from the beginning, and connect her personally to the anchors from hell by making her a key figure, like they did with Constantine and Charlie.

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And why do people think that if someone wants stories for Sara Lance, they want her to be miserable?

Having stories is not equal to suffering. A lot of characters in many shows outside Arrowverse have proactive interesting adventures stories that are not connected with pain or finding the love of your life. Sara Lance is a time travelling captain with interesting past, she can be over her darkness but still be in the center of adventures that are connected with her personally, reveal new sides of her character or bring her to a new horizons that are not domestic or IKEA. Or even if this stories are coming from her dark past, they can show us her growth by seeing her approach them differently, because growth is not shown by completely ignoring a story line, or by trashing your past and saying you are better now because you read books. Growth is shown by accepting your past and deal with it in a more positive heroic way.

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And I get it, some people think she had enough stories and development and there is no where else she can go, but this is like saying that people’s life end with one right choice or one promotion. She became captain and she joined the big heroes, but this is just a new beginning, giving her new challenges, not the end. Only a bad writer would say this is the end but still keep her character around.

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9 days ago

Legends of Tomorrow’s poster girl

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Arrow and Canary
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Arrow and Canary

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Sing Pretty Bird
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Sing Pretty Bird

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I know a lot of confusion comes from the fact that when you go online they promote Sara Lance as the leading lady, and then you compare her with Kara and Kate, who are in the center of their shows, they drive the story forward, and then you see this is not the case with Sara. Legends can remove her from two episodes and nothing changes. So obviously she is just the poster girl of the show. 

But there are people who think this shouldn’t be the case and that she has the potential to be a real leading character in an assembly show, they could have planned the seeds for her new super power from the beginning, and connect her personally to the anchors from hell by making her a key figure, like they did with Constantine and Charlie.

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And why do people think that if someone wants stories for Sara Lance, they want her to be miserable?

Having stories is not equal to suffering. A lot of characters in many shows outside Arrowverse have proactive interesting adventures stories that are not connected with pain or finding the love of your life. Sara Lance is a time travelling captain with interesting past, she can be over her darkness but still be in the center of adventures that are connected with her personally, reveal new sides of her character or bring her to a new horizons that are not domestic or IKEA. Or even if this stories are coming from her dark past, they can show us her growth by seeing her approach them differently, because growth is not shown by completely ignoring a story line, or by trashing your past and saying you are better now because you read books. Growth is shown by accepting your past and deal with it in a more positive heroic way.

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And I get it, some people think she had enough stories and development and there is no where else she can go, but this is like saying that people’s life end with one right choice or one promotion. She became captain and she joined the big heroes, but this is just a new beginning, giving her new challenges, not the end. Only a bad writer would say this is the end but still keep her character around.

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13 days ago

Legends of Tomorrow’s poster girl

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“please don’t be a condolence card, ‘cause those are always super awkward.” “nah. hopefully something better. it’s you, ollie,...

Show that feminism is not dirty word by proving that women and men are really equal. 

To empower the one don’t need to de-power the other, 

Show that fight of the sexes doesn’t exist and women and men can be in a relationship without the need of changing each other, none is perfect and if the other hurt you with the things they do, just move on. 

Write stories that include both powerful women and powerful men, working together equally important.

Write interesting female characters with the gravity and depth of male characters, they make mistakes, they own their sexuality, they don’t apologize for every little thing, but learn from their mistakes, they are dark, they have power and enemies, they fall and stand up, they are really relevant, proactive, bring interesting development.

Build one powerful female character that stands recognized out there as a big hero 

How Arrow CW does it:

Write a female episode with many women, but exclude the men, these women are only relevant in this episode.

In order to give power to the women the men have to fail or not be present at all. 

The male character has to totally lack certain ability to give relevance to the female character. 

The relationship is constant battle of the sexes where men have to change and be better for the women because they need the perfect husbands. 

Women’s achievements are measured based on the man they’ve got, more than one woman can’t be relevant. 

If there is interesting proactive woman with darkness and real story lines she has to be killed, and turned into light hearted comics relief. 

Most of female characters stories and development are off screen, 

Parading how they write one episode where women help each other but build the whole show on pitting women against each other. 

Female characters are not really relevant to the story as long as they are not love interest, and the main love interest has nothing going on but the love drama. 

Women that hasn’t seen each other for ages talk about men, instead of professional or other personal achievements, friends, family or fights.

Introduce many female characters occupying the same heroic space so people don’t really have one female hero but many undeveloped ones, so all of them don’t stand equally as representation and recognition next to the male hero. This also divide fans and create wars, while men know their male heroes, women can’t decide which one is their hero, because they are too many 

15 days ago

Real empowerment vs Arrow CW empowerment

So all this time they said that Legend’s are a family, that everyone belongs, no matter how different, that misfits are actually heroes, that everyone belongs, they tried to redefine normal, BUT when Ray and Nora married they decided that they should leave so they can have the ‘normal’ life. Obviously the most ‘normal’ society thing has no place on the Wave Wrider, you see: ‘ the man should provide for his woman, and he can’t do it while saving the time line’. LOL Well thank you Legends writers for proving you are the biggest bonkers and fakes and all along you are just pushing the same old patriarchy agenda and you are not progressive at all. The reasons you provided for Ray and Nora to leave just tell you out what hypocrites you are all this time. You actually do not like different, you push tropes and superficial agendas masked with cheap humor. You lie about what family means and try to normalize toxic behavior. You even redeemed a nazi who tried to kill millions of people and murdered for pleasure a female hero, then made her sister sit on one table with him, and took away her agenda and closure.

The heroic adventures of Ray Palmer should had never ended with marriage, marriage does not need to cage you in some social normality, where you should abandon your dreams and leave the things you love. Saying he moves on to be ‘mature and responsible ‘ invalidates his journey and the one of the others on the wave wrider. You are just saying that the real journey starts when he leaves and all this time we were watching some childish irrelevant fooling around, is that it? Because if that’s the case you wasted the time of many people and made them believe in your fake stories of empowerment and growth. And what about Nora? Why this powerful sorcerer should be put in the normal life of picket fence? Why not give her complex stories the way you do for Constantine? Did she really need a good love to tame her, instead of give her the real potential of a complex character with range of more than one emotion?

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Legends writers are the biggest hypocrites and contradict themselves.

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“I’ve known pain, so I am not letting anyone else feels what it’s like” - Sara Lance to herslelf “Everybody is a warrior for the...

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The Canary/ Black Canary/ White Canary power and legacy in DC tv and film (fan made collage tribute to Sara Lance, Dinah Lance...

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The Canary/ Black Canary/ White Canary power and legacy in DC tv and film (fan made collage tribute to Sara Lance, Dinah Lance...

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Nyssara adventures

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Nyssara adventures

Reducing this complex female character to a machine and her tragic past, struggles, growth, pain, love, fight to a program, is another sign Legends writers don’t know nothing about how to write female heroes. What they do with her now, does not make her a real person, on the contrary, they reduce her to a one dimensional trope. 

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The biggest irony here is that they think that if they give her domestic everyday life scenes they make her more real person, while on the contrary her personality and reactions are far from any real woman. Maybe living on a pirate ship and surviving on an island does not feel relatable like waiting for the bathroom, but Sara’s personality and reaction during her hard times of survival were so realistic and so human that made her more real person than Sara who deals with her problems as a puppet.

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Yes Caity Lotz give her character life, but this is because she is so talented. The writers don’t give anything to the character but all the tiring stereotypes for females in romantic comedy: she is the cool understanding girlfriend, that likes pink and glitter and needs to be tamed by love. Assuming that reading books is what makes you a real person is also insulting to all the women out there who are really living this life, and feel more connected to League Sara, than to book club Sara.

The most sad think is that at the same time the male character who deals with demons and hell is not considered ‘programmed’ or not real. He is the one who furthers the story and no one is bothered whether he is developed or not as long as he has a path and a journey. While our female captain is considered developed because she deals with domestic love drama.

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Sara Lance was not ‘programmed’ to be an assassin

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Silver and Gold, the Moon and the Sun

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Silver and Gold, the Moon and the Sun

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Canarrow: then and now
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Canarrow: then and now

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Silver and Gold, the Moon and the Sun

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Silver and Gold, the Moon and the Sun

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Love all the bad ass strong women, who were abused, forced to be assassins, chose to be vigilantes, and turned heroes and stood...

Me and my girlfriend watching how Ava tears down Sara in Legends of tomorrow for her ever being in love

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Me and my girlfriend watching how Ava tears down Sara in Legends of tomorrow for her ever being in love

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31 Female Characters for Women’s History Month: Sara Lance
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31 Female Characters for Women’s History Month: Sara Lance

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Listen. I'm an Avalance shipper through and through. But Nyssara is fucking adorable you guys. So fucking adorable.

22 days ago

Listen. I'm an Avalance shipper through and through. But Nyssara is fucking adorable you guys. So fucking adorable.

22 days ago

Same anon as last time. Thanks for answering. Wow. Ava fans made it out like Sara was the controlling one who snuck around...

IT shows toxic, manipulative behavior that I think people now can’t ignore. There isn’t a real person, who would be ok with that, and this kind of relationship does not survive. 

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Excusing Ava with being a clone is not ok, because in the end her being insecure makes her behave in the wrong way, and obviously Sara does not see it, because of her own self hatred and PTSD. She thinks that Ava treats her fairly, because she does not deserve a real person. 

If Sara called Ava out on her bullshit than yes, Ava can change and improve. But Sara is again in a trapped toxic relationship the way she was with the League, with Ivo and so on- she believes she deserves it, and that people treating her like shit is ok, and she is able to forgive everyone. 

I think though Sara deserves someone who would treat her better, who would make her open up, share, heal. Who would be there for her in a healthy way. And Ava needs to grow on her own and by herself.

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Ursprünglich gepostet von blasiangaysian

If Sara had called Ava out on her behavior, Ava probably would’ve run off and Sara would chase after her and once again apologize for being in the right. Sara has no say in that relationship. Her purpose is to serve Ava. And some fans go with Sara’s finally happy. I know I’m supposed to think that, but what I see is Sara settling because she thinks it’s what she’s supposed to want and deserves. Not that she’s truly happy.

What she’s doing with Ava is probably what she did with Ivo. Making sure she did everything he wanted to keep him happy and always apologizing when he did something wrong. It’s like her Stockholm syndrome is coming through again. I’m not saying Ava is as evil as Ivo, she’s not. But she is manipulative. I think even as a clone she knows what she is doing. She wants Sara to be her cheerleader.

I don’t even see what Sara is getting out of this relationship. None of her concerns matter, she doesn’t get to deal with her issues, she can’t talk to Ava about her feelings, she can’t lean on her when she’s in mourning another friend, she can’t disagree with Ava, she has to always do what Ava wants or she thinks Ava wants, and most of all she’s not allowed to be herself.

People saying Sara’s happier now because she has a girlfriend. Fans call that character growth while I see character regression. Those of us that watched Arrow have seen Sara dealing with her self esteem issues to become a confident leader. Now she’s back to not speaking up for herself and giving in to Ava’s every want. There’s a difference of sara being in a relationship and Sara being part of a relationship. One is her just being there to prop her girlfriend up and the other is Sara being an equal part in the relationship. That’s what I want for her. I’m not getting that with Avalance.

22 days ago

In what universe picking up your girlfriend’s phone is acceptable?

IT shows toxic, manipulative behavior that I think people now can’t ignore. There isn’t a real person, who would be ok with that, and this kind of relationship does not survive. 

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Excusing Ava with being a clone is not ok, because in the end her being insecure makes her behave in the wrong way, and obviously Sara does not see it, because of her own self hatred and PTSD. She thinks that Ava treats her fairly, because she does not deserve a real person. 

If Sara called Ava out on her bullshit than yes, Ava can change and improve. But Sara is again in a trapped toxic relationship the way she was with the League, with Ivo and so on- she believes she deserves it, and that people treating her like shit is ok, and she is able to forgive everyone. 

I think though Sara deserves someone who would treat her better, who would make her open up, share, heal. Who would be there for her in a healthy way. And Ava needs to grow on her own and by herself.

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Ursprünglich gepostet von blasiangaysian

If Sara had called Ava out on her behavior, Ava probably would’ve run off and Sara would chase after her and once again apologize for being in the right. Sara has no say in that relationship. Her purpose is to serve Ava. And some fans go with Sara’s finally happy. I know I’m supposed to think that, but what I see is Sara settling because she thinks it’s what she’s supposed to want and deserves. Not that she’s truly happy.

What she’s doing with Ava is probably what she did with Ivo. Making sure she did everything he wanted to keep him happy and always apologizing when he did something wrong. It’s like her Stockholm syndrome is coming through again. I’m not saying Ava is as evil as Ivo, she’s not. But she is manipulative. I think even as a clone she knows what she is doing. She wants Sara to be her cheerleader.

I don’t even see what Sara is getting out of this relationship. None of her concerns matter, she doesn’t get to deal with her issues, she can’t talk to Ava about her feelings, she can’t lean on her when she’s in mourning another friend, she can’t disagree with Ava, she has to always do what Ava wants or she thinks Ava wants, and most of all she’s not allowed to be herself.

People saying Sara’s happier now because she has a girlfriend. Fans call that character growth while I see character regression. Those of us that watched Arrow have seen Sara dealing with her self esteem issues to become a confident leader. Now she’s back to not speaking up for herself and giving in to Ava’s every want. There’s a difference of sara being in a relationship and Sara being part of a relationship. One is her just being there to prop her girlfriend up and the other is Sara being an equal part in the relationship. That’s what I want for her. I’m not getting that with Avalance.

25 days ago

In what universe picking up your girlfriend’s phone is acceptable?

after last episode:

26 days ago

When someone says Nyssa is abusive but Ava isn’t

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Love all the bad ass strong women, who were abused, forced to be assassins, chose to be vigilantes, and turned heroes and stood...