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19 hours ago

butchers greek mythology without admitting it, claims to be using some "older version" of the myth noone has ever heard of, uses...

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7 days ago

For being so nice and cute, copy this to 10 other bloggers that you think are wonderful. Keep the GAME going and make others...

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I finished playing The Fate of Atlantis, and urg... I’m so disappointed because ACO is such a beautifully designed game, but most of the plots are so non sensical and ridiculous. Some of the dialogues are so cheesy and lame, and so many things are incoherent... but so far the worst is the depiction of the gods. Probably one of the worst ever along with God of war. Persephone is evil because “she is a prisoner” and is unkind and manipulative when in myth and religion she was called the Pure one, and she always helped people who approached her. Then Hermes, the god of wit, tricks, traveling and so much more is portrayed as the dumb “Persephone’s dog” and as someone way too stupid to realize he is being manipulated... Don’t even get me started on Hekate... This is another lame game where Greek gods “are evil just because” and damn, the fact Greek gods IN MYTH (not religion) could get “human traits” or flaws DID NOT MEAN there were similar to the worst kind of humans existing. I wish people could end this stupid misconception. Again, is a shame because this game is SO BEAUTIFUL. But the plot is idiotic and has very little to do with Greek mythology. I did not enjoy it and I was rolling my eyes every five minutes.

All aforementioned problems aside, why did they dress her up like some oversexualised, lit up version of Athena?????

7 days ago

I finished playing The Fate of Atlantis, and urg... I’m so disappointed because ACO is such a beautifully designed game, but...

Blimey, the internet loves to compare Zeus and Hera to the Clintons…

OK…

8 days ago

Blimey, the internet loves to compare Zeus and Hera to the Clintons... OK...

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Greeks as Greek Gods        [Hera (Ήρα) - Elisavet Moutafi (Ελισάβετ Μουτάφη)]   “I sing of golden-throned Hera whom Rhea bare....

9 days ago

Greeks as Greek Gods     [Hera (Ήρα) - Elisavet Moutafi (Ελισάβετ Μουτάφη)] “I sing of golden-throned Hera whom Rhea bare....

Things about Hera most people don’t know about:

She was Zeus’s perfect equal and was frequently depicted/imagined on a golden throne by his side.

She and Demeter had convinced Aphrodite that Eros was an adult and very much in love with Psyche, therefore convincing Aphrodite to let Eros marry the woman he loved.

According to some myths, Eurymedon had attempted to rape her when she was still a minor and she had had Prometheus by him (according to some myths) and Zeus had defended her honour, killing Eurymedon on the spot (according to others).

She didn’t take revenge on all of Zeus’s lovers. She only took revenge on those lovers who claimed to have loved Zeus more than her or who she feared loved Zeus more than her.

She had quite the sense of vanity and was furious when others claimed to be more beautiful than her.

She didn’t like homosexuality because she saw that it was a danger to the institution of family, which she protected.

When Zeus had transformed into a bird with the aim to seduce her, she slept with him only after making him promise he’d marry her. Then, prior to the “official” wedding, she bathed in a river and thus managed to regain her virginity.

She had had a very close connection to nature and the sea, and she was also the protectress of sailors (along with Aphrodite). 

According to some myths, she had given birth to Ares and Hephaestus all by herself, to take revenge on Zeus for Athena’s birth.

Source: http://users.sch.gr/ipap/hera/hera.htm (in Greek)

10 days ago

Things about Hera most people don’t know about: She was Zeus’s perfect equal and was frequently depicted/imagined on a golden...

Coming up next in my Greeks as Greek Gods mood-boards: Rhode, Triton, and Benthesikyme :)

14 days ago

Coming up next in my Greeks as Greek Gods mood-boards: Rhode, Triton, and Benthesikyme :)

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Greeks as Greek Gods       [Hera (Ήρα) - Elisavet Moutafi (Ελισάβετ Μουτάφη)] "I sing of golden-throned Hera whom Rhea bare....

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Greeks as Greek Gods     [Hera (Ήρα) - Elisavet Moutafi (Ελισάβετ Μουτάφη)] "I sing of golden-throned Hera whom Rhea bare....

I’ve had someone actually tell me that Alexandria and Alexander the Great weren’t Greek like what drugs are you taking?

What the shit did they think they were????

They tried to claim since Alexandria was in Egypt that it was created by Africans, and then when I pointed out that Alexander the Great actually founded it, they told me that history books are trying to cover up that he’s actually African

Sounds like you’re debating with a loon wearing tin foil on their head.

Nah, its likely a WE WUZ KANGZ person who think Africans invented everything good.

Then he owes the Jews reparations, because Egyptian slavery.

To be fair

He’s not Greek. He’s Macedonian.

Yes, but in that time, Greece had ownership over Macdedonia, and was considered apart of the kingdom, and his region actually stretched Greece’s reach

Greece, yes the unified country of Greece with a central ruling body and most certainly not a collection of warring city states that only allied themselves in the face of an external threat.

Tell me, what was the Greek flag circa 300 B.C.?

Ancient Greece and Modern Greece are very much two different places and while Macedonia may have been “Greek” in culture you’d be hard pressed to find someone back then who’d call themselves that, just like how Germany was multiple autonomous kingdoms before being made into one country.

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I’m not trying to come off as a pretentious asshole here but like, come on dawg did you even look this up? It’s like saying everyone from Africa is just Africa and Africa itself is one big nation because they all kinda look the same or something.

I know you said you’re not coming off as one, but you’re really being one now. 

The reason there’s such a big debate about whether he lays claim to either is that the geographical borders of the two countries have changed dramatically since Alexander the Great’s time. Ancient Macedonia was situated in the northern modern Greek peninsula, where the second-largest Greek city, Thessaloniki is today. Modern Macedonia is MUCH different than Ancient Macedonia, both geographically and that it has much more Slavic influence. 

He was both, and both Greece and Modern Macedonia lay claim that he is. And this will be debated until the end of the time.

There’s evidence that because of his family participating in the Olympics, in which you had to be a male and have Greek citizenship. This was debated at the time because of his Macedonian side, but he was allowed to enter because of the Argive Dynasty, in which the Macedonian family came from. ( “Now that the men of this family are Greeks, sprung from Perdiccas, as they themselves affirm, is a thing which I can declare of my own knowledge, and which I will hereafter make plainly evident. That they are so has been already adjudged by those who manage the Pan-Hellenic contest at Olympia. For when Alexander wished to contend in the games, and had come to Olympia with no other view, the Greeks who were about to run against him would have excluded him from the contest - saying that Greeks only were allowed to contend, and not barbarians. But Alexander proved himself to be an Argive, and was distinctly adjudged a Greek; after which he entered the lists for the foot-race, and was drawn to run in the first pair. Thus was this matter settled.” — Herodotus [5.22])

Now onto his parentage, in which his mother is known from being from Epirote, a Greek City State, and his father being Philip, Macedonian

I would love for you not to claim that I haven’t done research into this, as I have. 

You tried calling Ancient Greece a kingdom bruh and claimed it owned Macedonia. If you have done research, then it wasn’t enough to there was no central unified government in the peninsula and that for the most part a collection of self governing city states and outlying communities that shared a common language and alphabet. Being Greek back then is like saying you’re African or Latin American today, indicating you’re from a specific region of the world but not what your specific ethnic/national background would be. At certain points a single city state or two may have claimed supremacy among the others enough to form an empire but wasn’t a “Empire of Ancient Greece” because back then Greece would have simply been the name of the peninsula they lived on and not the country.

You are trying to apply modern borders and definitions to a time that lacked them without actually understanding the context of what those would have meant back then as well as straight up getting certain facts wrong despite claiming to have done research.

So was he Greek? Kinda, but in the same way I’m African (not that I actually could get specific since I have no idea what part the came from because slave trade.)

I can conquer that English isn’t my first language and that sometimes some words confuse me, so I apologize for calling it a kingdom, but I just said I was not actually giving modern borders to either of them hence why I said geographical it’s much different.

But his mother was Greek, he was able to participate in the Olympics (in which you had to be a male and Greek to join), his particular dynasty of the Macedonians having Greek blood, so he is very much mixed of both.

From what I’m gathering though, and correct me if I’m wrong, but you’re saying that Greeks didn’t have their own version of borders because they very much did, and it’s much different than modern borders, but it’s still there (x)

I am also going to break something down for you. Macedonians were Hellenistic. What bonded them with the other Hellenic tribes - the Minoans, Achaeans, Ionians, Mycenaeans, Dorians, and Epirots to name a few - was a cultural and historical bond, not a national or ethnic one. The Macedonians spoke in a Greek dialect (x), worshipped the gods of Olympus and followed all major traditions of their fellow Hellenes. If we approach the question strictly from a cultural perspective, the answer is obvious: ancient Macedonians were decisively Greek.  

Now onto the royal house of Macedon. They claimed an Argive descent (Greek) ( [Hdt. 9.45.1] Hearing that, the generals straightway went with the men to the outposts. When they had come, Alexander said to them: “Men of Athens, I give you this message in trust as a secret which you must reveal to no one but Pausanias, or else you will be responsible for my undoing. In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Hellas;[Hdt. 9.45.2] I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery. I tell you, then, that Mardonius and his army cannot get omens to his liking from the sacrifices. Otherwise you would have fought long before this. Now, however, it is his purpose to pay no heed to the sacrifices, and to attack at the first glimmer of dawn, for he fears, as I surmise, that your numbers will become still greater. Therefore, I urge you to prepare, and if (as may be) Mardonius should delay and not attack, wait patiently where you are; for he has but a few days’ provisions left.[Hdt. 9.45.3] If, however, this war ends as you wish, then must you take thought how to save me too from slavery, who have done so desperate a deed as this for the sake of Hellas in my desire to declare to you Mardonius’ intent so that the barbarians may not attack you suddenly before you yet expect them. I who speak am Alexander the Macedonian.” With that he rode away back to the camp and his own station there.)

Heritage of a country that wouldn’t exist for for almost two thousand years???

are you speaking about Modern Greece? Would you mind cluing me on which country you’re speaking about?

I don’t even know anymore. I didn’t see that edit until I posted. I even said Macedonians were Greek in culture but I feel like we’re going off two different ways of thinking about this.

I’ve been talking in means of culture and that his family is from Greek cities. Alexander knew that his family had ties to Greece, hence why he was so proud, had a Greek teacher, and claimed heritage to Achilles.

I don’t think my point was clear, and I apologize for that I’m really not trying to start an argument with anyone and English being my second language my point might not come across as clear

But to make this as clear as possible, I will tell you where his parents are from. Philip, Alexander’s father, roots trace back to Argos, and his mother is from the Molossian royal family.

Alexander saw himself as Greek, embraced his family’s roots, loved the Greek language, the gods, had a Greek teacher and loved Greek culture. So he believed himself Greek culturally and that he was actually Greek in both sides of his parents

Well it’s like this

I’m an American, but specifically to other Americans I’m a Californian. However if a foreigner asks what I am I would say American. I’d imagine that in Ancient Greece it would be the same way, tho it is a bit different because America is a single unified nation but considering each state more or less does its own thing and the fact that by sheer size and population we easily beat most other countries in the world it gets confusing to think about. American isn’t really a ethnic or national background as most people still identify by that with prefixes (I.E African American) but we are (loosely) connected culturally and it’s really the only way we haven’t Balkanized yet (that and being too closely tied together economically.)

So that’s why when I look at it, I think you’re wrong because if was from Ancient Greece, I wouldn’t call myself Greek to other Greeks, and if I was talking to a foreginer, I’d probably call myself Greek for simplicity’s sake, if that makes any sense.

But you’re not getting it, excuse my wording of claiming, but Alexander was literally Greek. Both of his parents had Greek blood in him, which makes him Greek as well. Alexander knew of his family ties to Greece and happily called himself Greek and Macedonian. He was both.

Both of my parents have African blood which makes me African, but Africa isn’t a unified state so much as a collection of them with even less cultural ties between them then Ancient Greece had. What does that have to do with anything? Depends on your idea of what constitutes a nation/ethnicity I guess.

I completely, 100% percent get what you’re saying, I don’t know why I’m still arguing at midnight over a language misunderstanding that was already resolved but honestly this has been a interesting conversation.

but you’re still African with African blood, which allows Greece and Macedonia to lay claim to him

Sure dude I guess. I’m too tired to argue anymore if that makes any sense on the account of how can a modern country lay claim to someone that existed before it was even founded on the sole basis of blood but if that was good enough then yeah okay.

Because as much as it’s different, that’s Greece’s history, it’s the same thing with America, any country in Europe, Asia, Africa, the entire world.

I don’t think I understand what you mean by that. Our history isn’t really to similar to Greece considering the native populations were already on a decline by the time Colonists from like five different nations came, warred against the natives and amongst each other until the 13 British colonies won their independence and expanded Westward until they hit California all the while steamrolling any native resistance despite treaties promising them lands. Even now there’s so much disunity in this country over politics that I’m surprised we haven’t gone the way of the Balkans yet.

that’s not what I’ve speaking about whatsoever in terms of America. You’re saying that someone cannot lay claim to someone because it was a much different country. There are people in your country that worship certain historical figures but are they not allowed to lay claim to them because it was a much different time. Say, George Washington, he’s America, but born in a much different time in America, are people not allowed to lay claim to him since it was a much different time?

because he helped found the modern country of America… and was our first head of state…

Like if you wanted to choose something similar you should have said Columbus considering we have a holiday for him despite not being the one to actually “discover” America or even have made it to the mainland. He has nothing to do with our culture.

It’s a much different country than it was. What George Washington had in the times, was much different from America now, so no, but your definition, you cannot lay claim to him. 

Or let’s go to a different country then. The kings and queens in England, Germany, Russia, they’re of much different time periods and their countries are much different than modern times, so does that mean British, German, and Russians aren’t allowed claim to certain historical figures that aren’t apart of modern times for those countries

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Just stop, now you’re the wrong one again.

Why couldn’t you have just called me an idiot?

If she doesn’t call you an idiot, I am. You just posted the date that Greeks won back their freedom from the Ottoman Empire, the Empire that conquered Greece and the start of Greek enlightenment. Did you really try to use that as a gotcha? Please, my lord, research something before you post it, and not just post the date of the Greek War of Independence

23 days ago

I’ve had someone actually tell me that Alexandria and Alexander the Great weren’t Greek like what drugs are you taking?

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Greeks as Greek Gods     [Zeus (Δίας) - Iosif Marinakis (Ιωσήφ Μαρινάκης)] “To Zeus Astrapaios (Astrapaeus) (Lightning Maker)....

the myth of persephone is about the trauma of the separation of mothers and daughters by marriage and this is the hill i will die on

To be clear I’m not against retellings that reinterpret the relationship between Hades and Persephone and present it as consensual and healthy– I do think there’s something incredibly powerful about looking at a story that’s been passed down to us through millennia about a girl being kidnapped and raped and saying “no. No, that’s not the kind of story I want to hear, that’s not the kind of story I want to tell, and that’s certainly not the kind of story I want my daughters to grow up on.” (Although I think it’s disappointing that these are now the only sorts of Persephone retellings we get, and at this point it’s really not a particularly revolutionary take, given how often it’s been done.)

But I also think we do a great disservice to the women of the ancient world by not remembering how this story, in that form, mirrored their very real pain. I’ve been thinking recently about how we can tell that women participated in the formation of their culture’s folklore because women’s trauma is embedded in it. (In Greek terms, the stories of Leto and Alcmene very clearly come out of women’s traumatic experiences with childbirth, and there are elements of women’s traumatic experiences of sexual assault embedded in, for example, the stories of Daphne or Callisto or Artemis and Actaeon) And the story of Persephone comes out of women’s experiences of being permanently separated from their mothers and daughters at marriage. (See also this post from @gardenvarietycrime.​)

For an ancient woman sending her daughter off to be married, knowing that she will see her only rarely and that the odds of death in childbirth were high, Persephone meant something. For an ancient girl leaving her mother and her entire world for a man she may never have met knowing the same, Persephone meant something. I do think a lot of the conflation of death and marriage in the ancient world comes out of this: that a girl is dead to her mother and her family whether she leaves them to go to a husband’s house or the house of Hades. Maybe it’s a consolation to know that someone else has done this before you, to know that a goddess once lost her daughter and a goddess once lost her mother the same way you are losing yours. And that they survived it.

Essentially I think we need to remember that this myth (like all myths and all folklore) is not necessarily entirely the product of men, that women’s voices and women’s trauma remain embedded in it despite all of our written sources being men’s tellings of the story. And when we retell it we risk losing those voices if we are not careful and if we dismiss the myth as it survives today as solely men’s version of the story.

29 days ago

the myth of persephone is about the trauma of the separation of mothers and daughters by marriage and this is the hill i will...

To all those professors and students who think the Erasmian pronounciation is the closest to the original ancient Greek, I challenge you to read “οικειοποιείται” with that pronounciation and tell me if it even sounds Greek to you 😰

(This Greek word has been in our vocabulary since antiquity)

What’s worse is that they blame us that we can’t accept the fact that ancient pronunciation is different than the modern one and they are completely oblivious to the fact that the Erasmian pronounciation makes the language essentially dysfunctional and can not explain how the language’s pronunciation evolved organically from ancient to modern times. Additionally, when you tell them they should drop the english accent from the pronunciation, they get MAD and they claim Modern Greeks don’t know anything about Ancient Greek and they are the ones who know how to speak Ancient Greek properly. 

If you want to visualize the answer to @alatismeni-theitsa​‘s example, according to the Erasmian pronunciation “οικειοποιείται”, a single word,  should be pronounced oh - ee -  keh - ee - oh - poh - ee - eh - EE - tah - ee. A single word!!!  Add to this lunacy an extreme english accent and you have what they support so fiercely.  

Apparently, an Ancient Greek started a sentence in the morning and finished it at midnight. Also, he was American. 

To be fair though, there is stuff in the Erasmian pronunciation that must be valid to some extent. I think the most convincing / accurate pronunciation of Ancient Greek I’ve heard is by the channel Podium-Arts in youtube. The speaker is Greek and knows how to apply the ancient rules in a way that does not kill the language. He’s not perfect but he’s probably the best out there right now. 

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To all those professors and students who think the Erasmian pronounciation is the closest to the original ancient Greek, I...

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Hi, ever since I came across your blog I've been interested in learning a little more about modern Greece. Are there any good...

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That whitewashing post hits a lot of points for me. I think we can all agree it's fine to retake the narrative so to speak, but...

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That whitewashing post hits a lot of points for me. I think we can all agree it's fine to retake the narrative so to speak, but...

Original Persephone Myth:

Demeter keeps Kore (means maiden) basically locked up in Sicily, she's not allowed to leave or wander around. When Kore is not helping her mom with the yard she spends her time singing. Meanwhile, Hades (a socially awkward and soft guy) spends his time alone in a land he didn't want, compelling to his tedious chore designated to him by Zeus, and spending time with his only companion: his dog, Cerberus (means spot). But one day he hears a beautiful female voice singing, and he finds himself waiting every day for the moment he can hear it again. Eventually, he decides to sing back, and they sing to each other every night after that. Kore is left to her own devices one day in the yard and she sings and waits to hear the other voice, when she does she follows it until she finds the place it emanates from: a crack in the soil, and she decides to jump in. Hades is confused to see a living person in his realm, and when he realizes it's the owner of the voice he loves he doesnt know what to do with himself. They spend months together, they fall in love and they marry, Kore becomes the queen of the underworld, she willingly eats pomegranate seeds so she can stay with Hades. Meanwhile, Demeter is looking for her daughter everywhere and not fulfilling her duties so the earth goes bare, when she gets word of her daughter's whereabouts she throws a tantrum and Zeus goes to retrieve Kore. He finds that Kore is married and happy and she doesnt want to leave and she can't leave because she ate underworld food, but he finds a loophole in the thing and says Kore is to return six months with her mom every year because she only ate six seeds and each one bides her to the underworld a month. He does this so Demeter will leave him and the rest of Olympus alone and do her fucking job. Also, everyone in the underworld is more afraid of her than his brother, she is feared but loved, and she is more powerful and so he decides to change her name to Persephone (means death bringer).

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The Popular Version:

Demeter is the best mom ever and one day sends Kore to pick some fruit. Hades, the most vicious of gods, sees her and is so overcome with lust he kidnaps her (in some versions she is underage), rapes her and forces her to marry him and eat six pomegranate seeds so she wont be able to leave him, he also changes her name. Demeter asks Zeus for help and when he finds out she ate the pomegranate he works around a loophole and he decretes that Persephone will be tied to the underworld only one (1) month for each seed she ate, therefore she's able to leave the underworld and go back to earth and her loving mom the rest of the year.

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The original is better and more heartbreaking and I wish more people knew it.

What will win: The Homeric hymn to Demeter + millenias of Greek heritage of respecting the gods. VS A webtoons comic of the 21st century, made by an Australian, with ugly designs and awkward poses.

P.S. Cerberus doesn't even mean spot in Greek

Honestly, the amount of people believing that Smythe, a woman who has nothing to do with the Greek culture, just magically discovered the "truth" about Hades and Persephone is concerning. Oh, I'm sorry she "read" the Illiad, that must be enough. She has gained all the knowledge in the world.

Fun fact: Persephone's story was not only created to explain the changing of the seasons but to show how marriages worked back then.

The groom asked for the father's permission. The mother did not need to be consulted. The bride to be did not need to be consulted.

The groom traditionally offered a gift to the bride (in Hades' case it was the flower he left in her field) by accepting that gift, the bride was accepting the marriage (Persephone plucked the flower from the earth, accepting the marriage without realising it).

The groom sometimes lived far away and so, he took the bride away from her home, took her away from her mother.

After the marriage was over, the groom gifted his bride with yet another gift.

Hades' gift was the pomegranate, a fruit that symbolised marriage and sometimes sexual relations. By eating the fruit, she became his wife in every meaning of the word.

And yes, back in ancient Greece, they were thought to be a loving couple and were often depected as such. However, that does not mean that their story had started quite as merrily.

Now, Demeter was a mother, one who loved her daughter greatly. Guess what? Mothers did not feel great joy when their daughters married, especially if it meant not seeing them because they now lived far away. They lose a child.

Demeter lost her child and did everything in her power to find it. As if that pain wasn't enough, the other Gods lied to her about not knowing what had happened to her daughter.

If you were in her place, would you be so casual about it? Would you let this man, your brother, marry your daughter and not say anything? If you did speak up, would that make you a helicopter mom?

To end this, there's no "older version" in which she went to the underworld on her own and stayed there just because she liked it. Hades is not a soft boy, he is a God and deserves to be treated as such. You wouldn't call Jesus a peace loving hippy, would you?

Now tell me that twisting a myth while using baseless facts doesn't spread ignorance.

Go read a book bro, you're embarrassing yourself.

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One more thing I noticed when reading this again. "Hades the most vicious of the Gods" and "he changed her name"

Both are a big no.

Hades did not change her name.

Also, Hades, Lord of the Underworld, King of the dead, the receiver of many, the unseen one, was not quite as vicious as you paint him to be. He was a just God, he ought to be considering his line of work.

Now Persephone, or "Sephie" "Percy" or whatever you crazy kids call her these days was, as her name suggests, the slightly more vicious one. And I don't mean vicious as in the odd, red eyed little Mary sue with laughable temper tantrums and murdering tendercies the "all knowing Homer of our days" (what a joke by the way) tries to portray.

I think hades was a fearsome, warrior god, but not exactly "vicious". But our ancient invoked Persephone when they wanted to curse someone so maybe she had that vicious side.

"Homer of our days" 😂 😂

@sinsontheskin Thank you so much for your commentary, it was very interesting :) I won’t comment on anything you said but while reading it, I remembered that a lot of “traditional” wedding practices in modern Greece (as in, up to the 1950s/60s) also bear lots of similarities with the ones you described here.

“The groom asked for the father’s permission. The mother did not need to be consulted. The bride to be did not need to be consulted.“ This is basically the “ask the father of the bride for his daughter’s hand in marriage” thing. It doesn’t matter if the mother wants her daughter to marry him or not. What the father says is law because he’s the man of the house.

“The groom traditionally offered a gift to the bride (in Hades’ case it was the flower he left in her field) by accepting that gift, the bride was accepting the marriage (Persephone plucked the flower from the earth, accepting the marriage without realizing it).“ Again, this reminds me of some sort of gift that the groom normally brings when he comes to ask the bride in marriage in front of her family or when he’s about to get engaged to her. I won’t connect that to the engagement ring though because that’s a different thing (which I also ain’t sure if it actually existed in Greece or if it was just another ‘modern’ added element to our culture).

“The groom sometimes lived far away and so, he took the bride away from her home, took her away from her mother.“ I was reminded of Crete and Mani when reading that, because there it was rather common up to the 1960s that the groom would abduct his bride either to convince her family that he should be the one to marry her or because they refused to marry her off to him and he and his bride loved each other so much that he had no other way. (or he loved the bride so much in any case, the bride may have despised him in some cases).

“Mothers did not feel great joy when their daughters married, especially if it meant not seeing them because they now lived far away. They lose a child.“ Don’t get me started on the endless mother/daughter separation scenes in Greek folklore. It doesn’t matter if it’s a traditional Greek song or a fairytale or a movie from the 1950s. A daughter’s marriage is always connected with separation from the mother to this day. There’s also this famous lyric from pretty much all traditional Greek wedding songs: “Today, the mother parts from her daughter” (Σήμερα αποχωρίζεται η μάνα από την κόρη). 

And to add to that comment you made defending Demeter’s behavior: if my own daughter was abducted by my brother and then the rest of my siblings and their children kept making fun of me and yet I had the means to take revenge on them by basically starving off their mortal subjects to show them the level of my grief, believe me, I’d have done exactly what Demeter did.

BTW, wasn’t Cerberus supposed to be a three-headed dog?

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Original Persephone Myth: Demeter keeps Kore (means maiden) basically locked up in Sicily, she's not allowed to leave or wander...

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LO early anon here: the latest early access had Ares all mad at Zeus because he "forced her" to do degrading sex favors for him...

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Greeks as Greek Gods       [Hephaestus (Ήφαιστος) - Michael Antonakos] "To Hephaistos (Hephaestus), Fumigation from Frankincense...

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Greeks as Greek Gods     [Hephaestus (Ήφαιστος) - Michael Antonakos] "To Hephaistos (Hephaestus), Fumigation from Frankincense...

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“Princess Alice of Greece and Denmark deserves so much more than to be remembered as a ‘crazy’ member of the BRF / Greek...

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“Princess Alice of Greece and Denmark deserves so much more than to be remembered as a ‘crazy’ member of the BRF / Greek...

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Inktober 2019 (day 6): APHRODITE. Goddess of beauty, love and pleasure.  Reminder : all my inktober drawings are based on actual...

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Inktober 2019 (day 6): APHRODITE. Goddess of beauty, love and pleasure.  Reminder : all my inktober drawings are based on actual...

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Kos

Photo by Korina Pantelidi.

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Kos Photo by Korina Pantelidi.

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Gosh, I love Genevieve!! 🤣 She enters as a goblin, pushes the door like a clumsy Bella Swan and then walks away like a total...

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Gosh, I love Genevieve!! 🤣 She enters as a goblin, pushes the door like a clumsy Bella Swan and then walks away like a total...

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I just want everyone know LO made Aphrodite a racist because apparently nymphs are a different race and she explicitly hates...

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I just want everyone know LO made Aphrodite a racist because apparently nymphs are a different race and she explicitly hates...

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I just want everyone know LO made Aphrodite a racist because apparently nymphs are a different race and she explicitly hates...

1 month ago

I just want everyone know LO made Aphrodite a racist because apparently nymphs are a different race and she explicitly hates...

1 month ago

I just want everyone know LO made Aphrodite a racist because apparently nymphs are a different race and she explicitly hates...

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I am fully Greek. Born and raised. And I have snow white skin (with blue undertones, I’m paler than all Northern Europeans I’ve...

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I am fully Greek. Born and raised. And I have snow white skin (with blue undertones, I’m paler than all Northern Europeans I’ve...

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Greeks as Greek Gods       [Ares (Άρης) - Nasos Papargyropoulos (Νάσος Παπαργυρόπουλος)]  “To Ares, Fumigation from...

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Greeks as Greek Gods     [Ares (Άρης) - Nasos Papargyropoulos (Νάσος Παπαργυρόπουλος)] “To Ares, Fumigation from...

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The Greeks who voiced AC Odyssey  Searching for Sparti I fell on that awesome video! It shows a lot of voice actors of the...

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The Greeks who voiced AC Odyssey Searching for Sparti I fell on that awesome video! It shows a lot of voice actors of the...

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About that live action Hercules movie if Disney can't hire actors/actresses in Greece can't they at least go with people of...

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anyone wanna mention LO Ares is just running around in a WW2 uniform (what timeline is this even on...) that like, is LITERALLY...

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“The Nazis didn’t just kill the Jews; they made use of every inch of them. Women’s hair was shaved off and weaved into blankets...
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“The Nazis didn’t just kill the Jews; they made use of every inch of them. Women’s hair was shaved off and weaved into blankets...